So there was a lot of speed and junk being passed along as real ecstasy. But real ecstasy was really hard to get and they cut the supply, which was coming from England and from Europe, mostly Holland and they just couldn’t get it in. So the drug dealers were desperate and I was there and I walked into one club when the supply ran out. The supply would usually run out around 11 o’clock and you’d see all the grumpy ass people walking around looking for anything to buy and I walked up to a drug dealer and you know, like reached down in my pants, grabbed my balls, made sure they were still there and I was like dude, sell this. And he said, you go away, what is that? And finally I was like, you know, I talked him into it.
I was like, look, you got nothing to lose. I’ll French all the product if you don’t sell it. I’ll take it back, throw it away, whatever. He did. Within an hour everybody in the club was jumping up and down pointing at me, pointing at him. He came back. He said how much more can you get, bro? How quickly can you get it and so so wait, let’s, that’s a pretty big grand canyon chasm to jump over between sleeping behind the speakers and now having the legal version of ecstasy, which you called herbal ecstasy. Different spelling probably for trademark reasons, but like how does a 15 year old high school dropout design a legal ecstasy supplement alternative, you know. In my mind, it’s like oh this took you know a hundred thousand dollars and a bunch of scientists and like a bunch of resources you didn’t have so how did how did this even come to be that you knew how to synthesize this herbal ecstasy.